News DetailFirst significant lake effect event of the year!
Posted At: November 7, 2007 @ 12:57 AM
Posted By: Reed Timmer
Related Categories: Snow
Heavy lake effect snow showers continue to the lee of Lakes Superior, Ontario, and Erie tonight, with over a foot of wet snow reported in parts of the Upper Peninsula of Michigan over the last 24-36 hours. 6-12 inches of snow has also fallen over the higher elevations of western NY, with the Tug Hill Plateau likely to receive the heaviest amounts. Shown below are some radar loops from the U.P. of Michigan and western NY respectively:

Early in the winter season when the lake waters are still very warm, CAPE values of 1000+ J/kg are often achieved over the Great Lakes when Arctic air-masses move in. Thus, thunder and lightning are quite common with the more intense lake effect showers. Our plan later this winter is to document some intense lake effect snow bands downwind of Lakes Erie and Ontario, where snowfall rates can exceed 5 inches per hour!


Early in the winter season when the lake waters are still very warm, CAPE values of 1000+ J/kg are often achieved over the Great Lakes when Arctic air-masses move in. Thus, thunder and lightning are quite common with the more intense lake effect showers. Our plan later this winter is to document some intense lake effect snow bands downwind of Lakes Erie and Ontario, where snowfall rates can exceed 5 inches per hour!
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Here are the storm reports so far from the UP of Michigan!
http://kamala.cod.edu/mi/latest.nwus53.KMQT.html
Last night we got hit pretty good with some snow last night. Sorry no video has taken from last night but it was fun to drive in.
Growing up in Michigan, you can bet every winter we had HUGE amounts of snow. Since moving to the VA/DC area 14 yrs ago, we one sigificant snow fall we had we were snow bound for 3 days the blizzard of 96! We get snow here, not much, enough though for them to close the schools with just the "hint" of the white stuff. My kids love it.
Kim, it sounds like you miss it. I get it for 6 months, so I don't miss it. I don't want it. I could easily go 14 years without it. haha
Actually, I probably would miss it.
I must be crazy saying that.
LOL, yeh, Strike, sometimes I do miss it. The shoveling though.........well, you know! I would like at least once to get a sled or something to take my 7year old daughter sledding she would LOVE IT! Sometimes WE can actually wash our cars out in the driveway in January.......crazy!
I don't mind the snow when it's on a 32 degree day with no wind and large snow flakes. I also like it around christmas. What I really hate it the below 0 degree days and windy :(
Hey Reed. How are you feeling, hope your food poisoning is better?
This past year has been great so now it's time to work my arse off over winter and save up cash for next year! I've definitely go my eye on the southern hemisphere. Australia is really appealing however the holy grail for me would be to intercept a SW Indian Ocean cat. 5 in Madagascar.
I'm also going to start planning for a Bangladesh/India intercept since they are long overdue a massive Bay of Bengal monster cyclone. Damn if only I could win the lottery, then I would chase every storm in the world!!
I lived in Chardon Ohio on the shore of Lake Erie back in the mid 80's and I can remember thunder snow, and several times we had 3 or 4 feet of snow. A few times you couldn't open the garage door it was piled up so high, it was no wonder the roof didn't cave./
What do you say about that mid November snowstorm for the ohio and miss valleys?
Hey James I'll be happy to fund your trip, if you take me along ;)
Well i just got bad news...the chase vehicle i planned on renting/leasing from a buddy up north has been totalled. Appearently he was coming back from chasing a local severe event, and was driving down US Route 150, when a cottonwood tree was blown over by a gust of wind, well the tree landed on the hood of the vehicle, and because of the vehicles motion it almost pushed in all the way to the vehicles drive compartment. While the vehicle was totalled, i'm very glad to hear that Bill was un-injured.
Bad thing is that this was a very well set up chase vehicle . It was a older style Jeep Cherrokee, and had the essential emergency lights, being strobes, and lightbars, along with a roof mounted line of lights, that were more like miniature spotlights. The interior was originally gutted, leaving only the Front Seats/dash in tact. The passenger seat was re-designed to swivel, between looking forward or backwards, and in the back was a set up like no other. On one side of the vehicle, emergency supplies/gear were packed, along with Low, Medium, and High band HAM Radios. And built to be right there if you swivelled to turn around was a desk/area to mount your desktop and laptop computers.
Anyone else hear the sonic boom from the space shuttle re-entry?! AWESOME!!!!!!! It was over NE AR at 11:48, landing in FL 12 minutes later! AAAAA!!!
James, you need to get a corporate sponsor, like energy drinks or Mt. Dew or something. (Ideas for TV.net too!!!)
Sounds like an incredible chase vehicle Ben! Although I've never been a big fan of light-bar overkill...esp. when they mimic those of police cars. Maybe he'll have it fixed in time for next storm season.
That would be incredible to intercept a tc in India/Bangladesh...then you could chase a tornado outbreak while you're out there. Supposedly Bangladesh gets some of the strongest tornadoes in the world.
Is the lake effect snow still happening?
I'm jealous.. people are sledding today somewhere down there, and it's brown here.
Freezing rain in Alberta. Not good.
3 killed in bus crash on iced roads near Grande Prairie.
More fzra today/ tonight.
Will be interesting if Edmonton gets it.
Nah Reed, the vehicle is not fixable. Its already at the junk yard.
I'm not a big fan of Emergency light overkill at all either, but these were all interchangable i believe, and by that i mean i believe you could just have say the 4corner strobes(Rear tail light strobes, and front turnsignal strobes) on, and the spotlight bar. Basically if i remember right everything had its own on/off options. Meaning you could have one of lights on, two, or all three.
He did have 3 police style light bars, One in the passenger side back window, Ones on the driver side back window, and one in the back window.
I on one hand like this type of set up because if there is ever a emergency or we end up having to block a road we have a visible hazard light on the side of the vehicle. So if it were dark we would still be highly visible...but on the other hand i can agree with 3 being overkill, IF USED AT THE WRONG TIME. The only one of those lightbars i would have used is the rear window one, if/when we would be pulled over...or if we were driving 10mph or more under the posted speed limit.
Hey guys, hope everyone is ok and get well soon Reed.
Well just thought wouldlet you know what the weather has been like here tody. We had gust up tp 40-50 mph around mid day, but i wasn't able to get a video because i was at school, i managed to get a small video and some pretty rubbish pics after though, ill upload them when i can but nothing impressive.
Sorry but this is all for tonight from me lol got more exams tomorrow and friday and then i will be back on friday!!
Speak to you all soon!!
Last thing before i go.....
In the video of the week, that tornado reminds me of the minnasota tornado which you fuys got in May i think , sorry if im wrong guys..... Mistake me if im wrong but do i see in one part of the video 3 suction vortices??
Anyway goto go now, speak to you all soon, hope all goes well!!
Final episode of storm chasers is on tonight. Im going out on this i think that they get it on this one.
And Tim your probably talking about the Manitoba tornado thats the only one that i know of that had 3 suction voritices.
I was thinking this summer about making an energy drink, Storm. It would be in nice 3D letters all capital and then the background image on the can would be lightning and stuff..But I haven't decided on what to mix it with yet..Maybe a little jolt..some other stuff. Any ideas?
Reed you feeling better? I burned myself a couple week's ago, some of you may know. It's healed now though! after 3 weeks or more of time. My advice is...NEVER MICROWAVE SOUP!!!!!
we are about to go into weather condition red, the highest warning.
bigtime wave action there cors?
Almost 100% Kenny..although 10 pounds lighter!
yeah thursday/friday reed. its a north western storm so it will create a huge storm surge for us down here. we were hit by hurricane force winds last januari but they came from the south i think. ps im sure volker will jump his chair when he hears about this hehe but he prolly heard it already. AAAAAAAAAAAA
here is a link with some further info:
http://www.wetter.com/v2/index.php?SID=&LANG=DE&LOC=1101&id=6796
you can use http://babelfish.altavista.com/ for translation from german to english
Hey all!! I'm home from another lame day of work!!
Reed!! If OK got the same snow as up here!! I would move there tomorrow!! hehe!! And It's nice to see ya have thew same view of the light bar as I do!! Now I could see having a big spot light and maybe a lil yellow flasher!! but anymore I too think is Overkill!!
any one else watching stormchaser and do you think sean gets inside a twister this year?